and maybe Ning as well?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2145408,00.asp

I’m not quite as positive as the author is, but he’s looking at it from what I consider to be an appropriate view.

dan, old enough to remember when “Push Technology” was the next big thing. It has been long enough I’ve forgotten the name of the desktop app that everybody had to have….

It’s not what you take when you leave this world behind you;

it’s what you leave behind you when you go.

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The author of the article may be right that these particular brands may not
survive. So what?

The point he’s missing is that the kinds of services and
functionalities they offer (and their descendent services/functionalities
that will come) aren’t going anywhere.

For Pete’s sake, all endeavors are doomed eventually. That’s no reason not
to start them or enjoy using them while they’re around and
useful/fun/interesting. How else is progress made?

-David

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http://davidrothman.net

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Exactly. And there are new social networking ideas nobody’s thought of yet.

Here’s a good Paul Graham quote, from “The Hardest Lesson for Startups
to Learn”:

“I was talking recently to a startup founder about whether it might be
good to add a social component to their software. He said he didn’t
think so, because the whole social thing was tapped out. Really? So in
a hundred years the only social networking sites will be the Facebook,
MySpace, Flickr, and Del.icio.us? Not likely.

“There is always room for new stuff. At every point in history, even
the darkest bits of the dark ages, people were discovering things that
made everyone say “why didn’t anyone think of that before?” We know
this continued to be true up till 2004, when the Facebook was
founded– though strictly speaking someone else did think of that.

“The reason we don’t see the opportunities all around us is that we
adjust to however things are, and assume that’s how things have to be.
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Gopher’s heyday was brief, but it was hugely important.

If Twitter lasts til 2011, I’d be surprised. But I use it, find it fun and
helpful, and even built an awareness service around it (www.twitterprose.com
).

We don’t really know what’s going to last, or whether something is a
building block for something else. I don’t “do” Second Life (insert tired
old joke about being busy with my First Life), and I don’t know where it’s
leading, if anywhere, but it’s a human endeavor, and that alone makes it
interesting in itself.

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I tend to agree with David. My initial thoughts:

1) I think of the current set of tools as “training wheels” for what’s
to come - ThirdLife, perhaps? Get us used to thinking “socially”, then
see what actually hashes out in the marketplace. Libraries, in
particular, can use this “kick in the pants” to keep us thinking in
terms of the user, not the institution, when designing resources.

2) I still have a copy of Nicholson Baker’s “end of librarianship”
article, which everyone and their sister sent me right after I applied
to library school, about the time the article appeared. It makes me
smile, especially when I’m overwhelmed by patron requests for assistance
with online tasks, which no one else but the library will give them,
esp. for free. I worry a bit about keeping up with day-to-day relevance
to patron’s needs, but I don’t worry about our (libraries) actual
existence as entities/concepts. I guarantee, however, that the form of
our existence (virtual, super-virtual AI, ??) will change in my
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Oh the irony: I just posted about the necessary traits for web
applications that seem to be emerging. I’m biased, but “social” was
definitely among them.

http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/11844/

Still, I wish I could find the quote that social software isn’t
something people use, it’s a feature that makes an application more
useful.

–Casey

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Well, gosh … It got you to read his column. And I’m sure that those
page-hits will increase HIS stock in the company.

What a piece of fluff …

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There is a marked distinction between what happened earlier through
personal web-pages and now, through the social networking websites -
blogs, wikis, podcasting sites so on. The distinction here perhaps goes
beyond the technology maturity of sharing and collaboration on the web,
a product is only successful when it is enjoyed by many and the seamless
connection across platforms is established so well. If you look at the
commercial success of those websites, it is only few. But in the last
few years, millions of such activities have grown without any
significant commercial strings attached to it. In a sense, you must look
at people’s willingness to share and consume this new information and it
is going to be endless, even in near future, until a completely new
technology overturns and captures this phenomenon (semantic web?). For
an average person, it looks like mere consumerism and entertainment to
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Casey/

More Importantly …

Social Networking Is People!

[ http://onlinesocialnetworks.blogspot.com/2007/06/social-networking-is-people.html ]

/Gerry

Gerry McKiernan
Science and Technology Librarian
Iowa State University Library
Ames IA 5011

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Oh the irony: I just posted about the necessary traits for web
applications that seem to be emerging. I’m biased, but “social” was
definitely among them.

http://maisonbisson.com/blog/post/11844/

Still, I wish I could find the quote that social software isn’t
something people use, it’s a feature that makes an application more
useful.

–Casey

On Jun 20, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Tim Spalding wrote:

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